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In America the United States Supreme Court has found and held that all parents have the right to the care, custody, control, and companionship of their children unless they are proven unfit.  “the interest of parents in the care, custody and control of their children–is perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interests recognized by this Court.” Troxel vs Granville 530 US 57 (2000)

Furthermore, North Carolina’s own courts have found, “`[i]n order to justify depriving a parent of the custody of a child in favor of third persons there must be substantial reasons or, as various courts have put it, the reasons must be real, cogent, weighty, strong, powerful, serious, or grave.’ 67 C.J.S. Parent and Child § 12, page 651.” James v. Pretlow, supra. Nor is the fact that a parent or parents seeking to retain custody of their child, or to obtain custody of their child, may not be as able financially to take care of the child as the party seeking to defeat their custody sufficient to justify the court’s depriving the parents of custody and awarding it to some third person. 2 Nelson, Divorce & Annulment, § 15.15, p. 245 (2d ed. rev. 1961).

As a result of the “deep and meaningful relationship” existing between parent and child, the preliminary determination required by the relevant constitutional provisions “must not be lightly undertaken” and “must be supported by clear and convincing evidence.” Id. At 53, 550 S.E.2d at 503 (citing Santosky v. Kramer, 455 U.S. 745, 747-48, 71 L. Ed. 2d 599, 603, 102 S. Ct. 1388, 1391-92 (1982)).

Parental rights may only be terminated if the specific criteria in GS 7B-1111 are met, being a resident of another country and poverty are not legal reasons for terminating parental rights, in fact 7B-1111 specifically states that poverty cannot be used as a reason for terminating parental rights, so DSS’ claim that the children are better off with their foster parents because the father does not have running water in Mexico is in error…running water is not a requirement of parenting.  So were our ancestors unfit because they did not have running water?  My grandparents did not have running water, or an indoor bathroom  until 1984, yet I was always clean, well fed, and loved and so was their house and clothes.

Amish people do not have running water, so should the state rush in and remove their child and call them unfit, based solely on that?

I would also like to mention that Mexico does have an issue with running water, it is not just this father’s home, but millions of Mexican residents that lack running water, through no fault of their own, so should America go in a take all Mexican children from their homes? Running water does not determine whether you are a good parent, who adequately provides care to your children and should not be used in this case to deny, by all accounts, a healthy, loving parent child relationship.  If DSS can take these children from this father for this reason, they can take a child for any reason without justification.

The grounds for terminating parental rights in North Carolina are:

§ 7B‑1111.  Grounds for terminating parental rights.

(a)        The court may terminate the parental rights upon a finding of one or more of the following:

(1)        The parent has abused or neglected the juvenile. The juvenile shall be deemed to be abused or neglected if the court finds the juvenile to be an abused juvenile within the meaning of G.S. 7B‑101 or a neglected juvenile within the meaning of G.S. 7B‑101. (There has been absolutely no abuse or neglect alleged against this father!)

(2)        The parent has willfully left the juvenile in foster care or placement outside the home for more than 12 months without showing to the satisfaction of the court that reasonable progress under the circumstances has been made in correcting those conditions which led to the removal of the juvenile. Provided, however, that no parental rights shall be terminated for the sole reason that the parents are unable to care for the juvenile on account of their poverty. (This father has not willfully left his children in foster care or a placement outside the home, in fact he has fought to have his children place with him, he was deported and unwillingly separated from his children and wife.)

(3)        The juvenile has been placed in the custody of a county department of social services, a licensed child‑placing agency, a child‑caring institution, or a foster home, and the parent, for a continuous period of six months next preceding the filing of the petition or motion, has willfully failed for such period to pay a reasonable portion of the cost of care for the juvenile although physically and financially able to do so. (There is no evidence that this father has willfully failed to pay a reasonable portion of his children’s care)

(4)        One parent has been awarded custody of the juvenile by judicial decree or has custody by agreement of the parents, and the other parent whose parental rights are sought to be terminated has for a period of one year or more next preceding the filing of the petition or motion willfully failed without justification to pay for the care, support, and education of the juvenile, as required by said decree or custody agreement. (Does not apply in this case)

(5)        The father of a juvenile born out of wedlock has not, prior to the filing of a petition or motion to terminate parental rights: (Does not apply to this case since the parents are, according to the article, legally married.)

a.         Established paternity judicially or by affidavit which has been filed in a central registry maintained by the Department of Health and Human Services; provided, the court shall inquire of the Department of Health and Human Services as to whether such an affidavit has been so filed and shall incorporate into the case record the Department’s certified reply; or

b.         Legitimated the juvenile pursuant to provisions of G.S. 49‑10 or filed a petition for this specific purpose; or

c.         Legitimated the juvenile by marriage to the mother of the juvenile; or

d.         Provided substantial financial support or consistent care with respect to the juvenile and mother.

(6)        That the parent is incapable of providing for the proper care and supervision of the juvenile, such that the juvenile is a dependent juvenile within the meaning of G.S. 7B‑101, and that there is a reasonable probability that such incapability will continue for the foreseeable future. Incapability under this subdivision may be the result of substance abuse, mental retardation, mental illness, organic brain syndrome, or any other cause or condition that renders the parent unable or unavailable to parent the juvenile and the parent lacks an appropriate alternative child care arrangement. (The reasons these children were removed from their mother were out of this fathers control, since he was no longer in the home or able to re-enter this country because of deportation, in order to care for his children.  It should also be noted that these conditions did not exist when this father resided in the home, with his children) 

(7)        The parent has willfully abandoned the juvenile for at least six consecutive months immediately preceding the filing of the petition or motion, or the parent has voluntarily abandoned an infant pursuant to G.S. 7B‑500 for at least 60 consecutive days immediately preceding the filing of the petition or motion. (This father has not willfully abandoned his children)

(8)        The parent has committed murder or voluntary manslaughter of another child of the parent or other child residing in the home; has aided, abetted, attempted, conspired, or solicited to commit murder or voluntary manslaughter of the child, another child of the parent, or other child residing in the home; has committed a felony assault that results in serious bodily injury to the child, another child of the parent, or other child residing in the home; or has committed murder or voluntary manslaughter of the other parent of the child. The petitioner has the burden of proving any of these offenses in the termination of parental rights hearing by (i) proving the elements of the offense or (ii) offering proof that a court of competent jurisdiction has convicted the parent of the offense, whether or not the conviction was by way of a jury verdict or any kind of plea. If the parent has committed the murder or voluntary manslaughter of the other parent of the child, the court shall consider whether the murder or voluntary manslaughter was committed in self‑defense or in the defense of others, or whether there was substantial evidence of other justification. (Does not apply in this case)

(9)        The parental rights of the parent with respect to another child of the parent have been terminated involuntarily by a court of competent jurisdiction and the parent lacks the ability or willingness to establish a safe home. (I would say this father wants to establish and is capable of establishing a safe home for his children, but is being prevented from doing so by the state of North Carolina and DSS.)

(10)      Where the juvenile has been relinquished to a county department of social services or a licensed child‑placing agency for the purpose of adoption or placed with a prospective adoptive parent for adoption; the consent or relinquishment to adoption by the parent has become irrevocable except upon a showing of fraud, duress, or other circumstance as set forth in G.S. 48‑3‑609 or G.S. 48‑3‑707; termination of parental rights is a condition precedent to adoption in the jurisdiction where the adoption proceeding is to be filed; and the parent does not contest the termination of parental rights.

(b)        The burden in such proceedings shall be upon the petitioner or movant to prove the facts justifying such termination by clear and convincing evidence. (1977, c. 879, s. 8; 1979, c. 669, s. 2; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1088, s. 2; c. 1206, s. 2; 1983, c. 89, s. 2; c. 512; 1985, c. 758, ss. 2, 3; c. 784; 1991 (Reg. Sess., 1992), c. 941, s. 1; 1997‑390, ss. 1, 2; 1997‑443, s. 11A.118(a); 1998‑202, s. 6; 1998‑229, ss. 11, 28; 1999‑456, s. 60; 2000‑183, s. 11; 2001‑208, s. 6; 2001‑291, s. 3; 2001‑487, s. 101; 2003‑140, s. 3; 2005‑146, s. 1; 2007‑151, s. 1; 2007‑484, s. 26(a).)

A look at North Carolina law, and North Carolina and United States legal opinions easily answers this question, so why then is DSS still fighting to illegally detain these children and keep them from their father?  I believe this is another demonstration of the uncontrolled and unchecked power of DSS.  A prime example of DSS’ total disregard for the laws of this state and country.  What this case basically comes down to is the illegal taking of Senor Montes’ children, not out of fear that he will hurt them, but because DSS believes that these children will be better off with someone else because their father lives in Mexico and doesn’t have running water.  DSS believes these children are better off being raised by strangers, then by a father who loves them so much, that even after being deported…he has still found a way to fight for custody of his children.  Just because DSS disagrees with the living conditions of a foreign country, or their way of life, does not make that way of life wrong.

Deported Migrant Fights for Custody of His 3 Children

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=488748&CategoryId=12395

SPARTA, North Carolina – A North Carolina court postponed a decision in the case of an immigrant deported to Mexico who is fighting for the custody of his three U.S.-born children.

District Court Judge Michael Duncan heard for eight hours the arguments as to whether Felipe Montes, who lived in Sparta for nine years, is capable of bringing up his children in Mexico or whether it would be better to put them up for adoption.

The judge heard Thursday from the state Division of Social Services and set another hearing for May 29, when Montes’ attorney, Donna Shumate, will have the chance to argue the importance of reuniting the family.

“This is a complicated, difficult case, but we expect to win. I’ve had the support of other attorneys in different parts of the country, and we’ll prepare for our hearing,” Shumate said.

Felipe Montes’ nightmare began on a day in October 2010 that started out like any other. He made breakfast for his wife and children and got the kids ready for daycare. (Isn’t this man entitled to citizenship since he is married to a U.S. Citizen?)

Montes, 33, was the sole provider for the family and the children’s primary caregiver, as his wife – a U.S. citizen – suffers from an unspecified disabling mental illness.

Unable to get a driver’s license because he was undocumented, Montes had been arrested several times for driving without a license, but continued to drive so he could work.

When he went to court to pay his fines, two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were waiting for him.

They handcuffed him and transferred him to a detention center in Georgia, from where he was deported to Mexico on Dec. 3, 2010, as his wife was expecting the couple’s third child.

Soon after Felipe’s deportation, his wife, Marie Montes, lost custody of their children due to economic difficulties and a decline in her health.

Marie, 31, told Efe that she expects to join her husband in Mexico once the judge returns custody of the children to Felipe.

“He’s an excellent father,” she said, and noted that Montes is “desperate” to see his kids because “he loves them with all his heart and so do I.”

The woman told Efe that the DSS has not let her speak with or see her children and that has caused her stress and insomnia.

“I did what I could during the three months that I had the kids. I want them sent to him. I have health problems with my kidneys and I take medicine, but I repeat, I’m not a drug addict like say I am,” the mother said.

Montes is not an isolated case, according to the Applied Research report “Shattered Families,” which shows that more than 5,000 children of deported or detained immigrant parents are currently in foster homes.

DSS says the Montes children would be better off with their current foster families than with their dad in Mexico, because there is no running water where he lives. (no parental rights shall be terminated for the sole reason that the parents are unable to care for the juvenile on account of their poverty.  North Carolina General Statute 7B-1111 (a)(2))

The Mexican Consulate in Raleigh has been encouraging Montes and will offer the necessary assistance to reunite the father with his children if the court rules in his favor. 
Being an illegal immigrant or a legal citizen of another county does not remove a parents rights to the care, custody and control of their children, nor does it make a parent unfit.  In fact there is nothing in the North Carolina General Statutes that lists illegal immigrant or foreign citizen as a finding of abuse, neglect, or dependency.  See North Carolina General Statute 7B-101.  Definitions
I would go so far as to call the Allegheny Department of Social Services handling of this case discriminatory based on race and national origin.  To deprive a parent of their children and children of their parent based on conditions that a parent has no control over, but are in fact a way of life in his country is discrimination.

There may be financial help available, in North Carolina, to relatives who have opened their home and hearts to children of family members that have been removed by CPS.

If DSS has placed a child into your home, in a Kinship placement or if you have been made a legal guardian or given legal custody of a child, you may be able to apply for, and receive financial assistance through Work First.

Most applicants that qualify for Work First Family Assistance also qualify for Medicaid, this includes you, and any other eligible family members. You may also qualify to receive help with child care expenses.
 

Continue reading on Examiner.com “Child only” Work First benefits may help support child in Kinship care – Winston-Salem CPS | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/cps-in-winstonsalem/child-only-work-first-payment-may-help-support-child-kinship-care#ixzz1fapKICSU

North Carolina Child Protective Services illegal and unethical practices?

 

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-29636-Surry-County-CPS-Examiner~y2009m12d2-North-Carolina-Child-Protective-Services-illegal–and-unethical-practices#

Do you know a child who has died during or after a DSS investigation in North Carolina?

Do you know a child who has died after reports of abuse where made to DSS? Did DSS ignore your report and fail to protect the child?

Do you know a child who has died in foster care or after being adopted from foster care due to child abuse or neglect?

Are you the family member of a child that died during or after DSS involvement?

Are you a family member of a child who has died as a result of DSS policy violations or inaction when it came to investigating reports of abuse?

 

To read more of this article please visit the above link…more importantly, if you have a complaint against North Carolina DSS, in any county…visit the above link and contact the reporter.

How system failed 15-year-old gunned down at bus stop

 

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/crime/story/75983.html

 

By Christopher D. Kirkpatrick | Charlotte Observer

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Tiffany Wright stood alone in the dark, waiting for her school bus.

It was just before 6 a.m., and her foster grandmother had walked back home to get Tiffany’s water bottle.

Tiffany, 15, was eight months pregnant but determined to stay on track in school. She wanted to be a lawyer. And after just a few weeks at Hawthorne High, she had impressed teachers as smart and ambitious, despite a difficult childhood.

At 5:51, Tiffany sent a text.

“Wheres the bus?”

One stop away, replied her friend, already on the bus.

At 5:55, as the bus lumbered toward Tiffany’s stop, people began calling police to report gunshots.

A school bus dispatcher radioed Tiffany’s bus driver: Change course – something’s happening ahead.

Tiffany lay dead in the road, shot in the head, that morning, Monday, Sept. 14. Her baby girl was delivered at the hospital and lived a week, but died Sunday.

Nobody’s charged in the killings, but police call Tiffany’s adoptive brother, Royce Mitchell, a “person of interest.”

In the months before she died, local agencies took steps aimed at stabilizing her home life and keeping her safe. But her story exposes failures in the system that was supposed to protect her.

Among the missteps:

•In February, a Mecklenburg court clerk appointed Mitchell as Tiffany’s temporary guardian — even though he was a felon who served time in federal prison. He was also tried in 2006 for murder, but found not guilty. And last year, he was accused of domestic violence, though the case was dismissed.

•In July, social workers told police that Mitchell, 36, might have committed statutory rape with Tiffany, but police didn’t question him about it for seven weeks, and didn’t charge him with the rape until after Tiffany was killed.

•This month, Mecklenburg social services failed to cut off communication between Tiffany, who was in foster care, and Mitchell, said a source close to the investigation.

On the day of Tiffany’s killing, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police jailed Mitchell for statutory rape and indecent liberties with a child, naming Tiffany as the victim.

Police defend their work, saying they followed the industry’s best practices – which takes time. Police didn’t feel a need to rush, they say, because they believed Tiffany was secure, hidden in a foster home with no threat to her safety.

Police say it’s hard to prove statutory rape: Of the 262 reports of statutory rape police received over three years, only 16 percent – 42 cases – were accepted by prosecutors.

Experts say statutory rape cases are complicated because they involve victims ages 13, 14 or 15 who often consider themselves voluntary participants in sex with someone at least six years older. So victims can be reluctant to help police. (this wasn’t Statutory Rape, this was incest…Mitchell was her adopted brother…My God learn the law in this state!)

But child advocates say in cases like Tiffany’s, police should act more aggressively. An immediate arrest sends a signal to a suspect and can persuade them to stay away from victims.

“The cases may be difficult to win, but they’re not difficult to charge,” says Brett Loftis of Charlotte’s Council for Children’s Rights.

UNCC criminologist Paul Friday says: “Often, nothing is done in these kinds of cases because they’re based on improper assumptions about the rationality of someone that age. But the minors are often unaware of disease, birth control and they can be exploited by someone.”

Adopted by foster mother

Tiffany first entered the child welfare system as a toddler in Buffalo, N.Y., when her mother lost custody.

She was adopted at 4 by her foster mother, Alma Wright, an older woman with eight grown children, who was excited about raising another child.

One of Wright’s grown sons was Royce Mitchell, a star quarterback in high school who’d gone on to play for a semi-pro team in Buffalo. But Mitchell also was indicted in 1999 as part of a drug trafficking ring and went to federal prison.

While he was in prison, authorities also charged Mitchell with an earlier murder, but a jury found him not guilty.

In 2004, Alma and Tiffany left Buffalo for North Carolina, settling near Kings Mountain. Tiffany made friends easily at school and church. She ran track at Bessemer City High School.

In 2007, Mitchell was released from prison and followed his mother to North Carolina.

But last fall, Alma Wright got sick. Friends at church helped out with Tiffany, inviting her for dinners and weekends. Tiffany spent time with Mitchell and his wife, too.

Alma Wright died Jan. 25, and Tiffany moved in with the Mitchells in Charlotte.

On Jan. 30, Royce Mitchell asked a Mecklenburg court to appoint him and his wife as Tiffany’s guardians.

On his application, he wrote: “We are seeking guardianship because we were requested to do so by Mrs. Alma Wright before she died.”

He wanted to transfer Tiffany to West Mecklenburg High School.

The court set a hearing for Feb. 5 and appointed a child advocate to study the situation and look after Tiffany’s best interests in court.

There’s no transcript of what happened in court, and the clerk who handled Tiffany’s case declined to discuss his decision.

Frederick Benson, a Mecklenburg assistant clerk of superior court, appointed Mitchell the temporary guardian of Tiffany’s welfare.

It’s unclear if Benson, a lawyer, knew about Mitchell’s criminal background. Court clerks are not required to perform background checks in guardianship cases, says Clerk of Superior Court Martha Curran. It’s up to each clerk to decide what checks are necessary, and they often rely on court-appointed child advocates to advise them in such cases.

Tiffany’s advocate, lawyer Martha Efird, declined to discuss her actions in the case.

It was in the weeks surrounding the Feb. 5 court hearing that Tiffany got pregnant, if hospital estimates are accurate.

But friends say Tiffany, who started at West Mecklenburg High in February, wouldn’t realize for four or five months that she was pregnant.

On Feb. 27, clerk of court Benson ordered DSS to conduct a “home study” of the Mitchell household. Officials won’t release their findings.

But Mitchell didn’t keep custody long, according to several of Tiffany’s friends in King’s Mountain.

In late March, Mitchell left Tiffany at a group home called With Friends in Gastonia, according to Marlene Jefferies and Cruceta Jeffeirs, two adult family friends who watched Tiffany grow up.

The group home wouldn’t confirm that. But the friends say the home reported to social services that Tiffany was abandoned. And she was soon back in foster care.

On March 31, Jeffeirs, a Shelby pastor, wrote a letter to Benson seeking custody of Tiffany: “My desire is to see Tiffany accomplish all the goals that she has set for herself and I believe she can do that in a stable environment with lots of guidance and love.”

DSS officials in Gaston and Mecklenburg won’t discuss Tiffany’s case or answer questions about what steps they took to protect her.

But friends and family say Tiffany was eventually placed in the care of foster parent Susan Barber, in a townhome off Mallard Creek Road in Derita.

By July, it was clear Tiffany was pregnant, friends say.

Barber tried to shield Tiffany from talking to those she believed might be bad influences, according to Tiffany’s cousin Brittany Page. But a source close to the investigation said Tiffany and Mitchell continued communicating.

Despite repeated attempts, Barber could not be reached.

As the school year approached, Tiffany prepared to change schools again, this time to Hawthorne High in Charlotte, which offers a special program for pregnant students.

Delayed investigation

On July 27, social workers reported to police that Royce Mitchell might have committed statutory rape with Tiffany.

It took eight days for a detective to look at the case, and three days more for it to be officially assigned to Teresa Johnson, a detective with CMPD’s youth crime and domestic violence unit.

Another 12 days passed before Johnson interviewed Tiffany.

It’s unclear when detective Johnson discovered Mitchell’s background, but it wasn’t enough to ramp up the investigation. Investigators say they believed Tiffany was safe in a foster home and faced no threats from Mitchell.

Police say their performance in the case followed procedure and met standards.

Police interview alleged victims immediately if the crime has occurred within the previous 72 hours, so they can gather evidence that may remain. But in cases like Tiffany’s – where months had elapsed since the alleged offense – police try to arrange just one interview when children and teen victims of abuse are involved.

Police acknowledge that strategy takes time but minimizes trauma and reduces the chances that young victims might be led into inaccurate testimony by repeated questioning.

Police also let such victims decide when they want to be interviewed at the county’s child-victim center called Pat’s Place. There, specially trained interviewers talk to victims, while social workers, psychologists, police and others watch from another room.

Tiffany chose an Aug. 19 interview. She didn’t say much during the formal interview. But later that day, Johnson won her trust and obtained enough information to move forward with the investigation.

No response from Mitchell

The next day, Aug. 20, the detective made her first call to Mitchell to ask him about the charge, she says. Johnson left a message and gave him a few days to call back.

When Mitchell didn’t respond, she made calls over the next two weeks to social workers and a federal probation officer to ask Mitchell to come talk to police.

Police say they didn’t immediately arrest him because they believed they could get better information if he talked voluntarily.

On Sept. 9, a federal probation official told Johnson that Mitchell was not coming in.

On Sept. 10, a team of social workers, police and other agencies held a standard follow-up meeting to discuss how to proceed in Tiffany’s case.

On Friday, Sept. 11, detective Johnson phoned Mitchell’s wife and left a message. She asked her to call back to discuss Tiffany, Johnson says, but didn’t give details of the rape allegation.

That Monday, Tiffany was shot and killed.

As emergency vehicles rolled to the scene, Tiffany’s school bus was diverted from its normal route. But the students could see flashing lights. Tiffany’s friends on the bus, Cimone Black and Tamia Corpening, began to worry.

“I kept texting her phone…,” Cimone said. Then she started calling, but all she got was voice mail.

The bus continued on to Hawthorne. For Tamia, the hourlong ride was excruciating.

Nobody said a word.

Staff writers Liz Chandler and Ely Portillo and researcher Maria David contributed.

America’s dead children and Child Protective Services

 

http://www.examiner.com/x-29636-Surry-County-CPS-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Americas-dead-children-and-Child-Protective-Services

The list is long and heartbreaking, the children on it have been beaten, broken, drowned, burned, strangled, starved or neglected, and all of them are dead. Headlines have drawn attention to the cases of some of them, Danieal Kelly, Erin Maxwell, Kayla Allen, and Christopher Thomas, but there are many more, Phoenix Jordan Cody-Parrish, Brandon Williams, Elizabeth Goodwin, Logan Marr and Alexis (Lexie)Agyepong-Grover, just to name a few.

The children on this list died in very different settings; some died in their own homes, some in foster care, while others were killed by their adoptive parents. Yet, all of these dead, abused, children had one thing in common, Child Protective Services.

Think It is Not About Money-The Case of Jack and Kathy Stratton

 

http://defeatdcs.blogspot.com/2009/11/think-it-is-not-about-money-case-of.html

 

The following was taken from the excellent http://www.couldyoubenext.com/website.

 

Jack and Kathy Stratton’s nine children have proved to be a veritable cash cow for the Mecklenburg County Department of Social Services. The Stratton children have been in foster care for nearly two years, ever since the DSS removed them from their home on charges of neglect. The Strattons have steadfastly denied the charges, and have been fighting to regain custody.During that time, the DSS, through federal funding, has been receiving $9,971.73 per month for the Stratton children, while paying out only $3,600. Net profit: $6,372 per month.

The rest of this story can be read at:

Defeat Children’s Services http://defeatdcs.blogspot.com/2009/11/think-it-is-not-about-money-case-of.html

Woman to be tried over girl found dead in storage

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iX3IKWT5t9haQq7vk7pkPNDlwCuQD9BAA9N02

By DAVID RUNK (AP) – Oct 13, 2009

FLINT, Mich. — A woman has been ordered to stand trial on charges including second-degree murder in the death of her adopted quadriplegic daughter whose body was found in a storage unit.

Judge Tracy Collier-Nix of 68th District Court made her ruling on Tuesday.

Forty-year-old Lorrie Thomas of Flint will stand trial on six charges.

Authorities believe 9-year-old Shylae (sha-LAY) Thomas had been dead for six weeks when her body was discovered inside a 33-gallon container in a storage unit on April 22.

An autopsy indicated the cause of death was neglect, malnourishment and dehydration.

Defense attorney Mark Clement denies that Thomas, who was Shylae’s aunt, starved the girl.

Thomas is set to be arraigned Monday in circuit court.

A SUZANNE SHELL STORY ON LEGALLY KIDNAPPED

 

http://legallykidnapped.blogspot.com/2009/10/suzanne-shell-story.html

 

WILL THEY ALLOW ANY “NUT JOB” TO ADOPT

 

https://stopcorruptdss.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/will-they-allow-any-nut-job-to-adopt-2/

Look at what this adoptive mother is saying about her adoptive children.   Do you honestly believe that a woman that can say these horrible things about these children is the right person to raise them?

My God with a mother like that, you don’t need enemies!!!

When people called her out about her comments on these children, this woman, Lisa Hill, began emailing, threatening, and harrassing them, while in the public face, claiming it was the other way around.  I know because I have been on the recieving end of her emails and am now suffering under constant and continuing harassment from her for reposting her blog posts.   

It is my belief that if you put public information on a PUBLIC FORUM then you best be prepared for the comments you recieve.  She posted these horrible things about children who from her own mouth have suffered enough. She gave no nevermind to how hurt they would be if they’d come across her derogratory comments about them or how others would treat them if they read the comments and recognized them from the pictures she posted.  Lisa Hill does not have these childrens best intrest at heart, just her own pity party, and it is my belief that CPS should immediately remove these children and place them in a home where they will recieve the love that they deserve…  not the tyrannical ravings of a woman who obviously does not know the true meaning of the word mother.   UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND FORGIVENESS NO MATTER WHAT!

 This woman posted this and then after recieving negative comments thought that she could change her blog to private, I guess she forgot about this other site where she had posted it as well… I am posting the entire thing here, so she can’t deny that she posted it.

I have reposted Lisa Hill’s blog posts under the guidelines of the Fair Use Doctrine, I believe I have made it perfectly clear that I have done so, not only because I find them News Worthy, but also for the purpose of criticism.  I completely and totally disagree with the manner that she speaks of her adoptive children and find her attitude toward them alarming.  Ms. Hill has continually emailed me threatening and harassing me in an attempt to bully me into removing these posts, I refuse to do so. 

This is a non-profit, blog, used to educate people about CPS, Foster Care, Adoption and the deaths or injuries of children that have been in contact or in the custody of Child Protective Services.  Lisa Hill adopted her two older children from Foster Care and I seriously question CPS allowing her to do so after reading what she has posted about them.  I believe that Ms. Hills attitude toward these children is harmful to them and it is that belief that has made me refuse to remove this post.  People need to see first hand how some of the people who adopt foster children really feel about them.  Lisa Hill’s posts brings this issue fully to light and I feel they are  a prime example of why we need better screening for people who adopt children from foster care and the need for continued montoring after children are adopted from foster care.

Lisa Hill has emailed me accusing me of endangering her children by reposting her posts, I do not believe that my repost is  endangering her children, Ms. Hill is the one who posted all of this information on a public forum, I have merely reposted the information that she released to the public.  These are not private facts, but information that she herself made public on several different public forums, she did not have a concern in the world that predators might be able to use the information that she posted to find her children, but now she wants to say that I am endangering her children. 

As a matter of fact, my blog posting carries only the information that she, herself,  posted on the wellness blog site.  On her other blog, where she also posted this, she has the state she lives in,  the town, the names and ages of the children, her husband’s name and occupation and even more pictures of these children and the other two.  That information can also still be accessed by anyone wishing to do so, I have choosen not to publish that information here.

My point is her issue with my reposting her offensive posts has nothing to do with endangering her children, but more to do with the fact that she has now realized how horrible what she wrote about these children really is and wishing to hide the proof of it.  Ms. Hill refuses to accept the responsiblity for her actions and has instead rage a campain against those who have stood up to her and cried foul for what I can only percieve as resentment, anger, and an intense dislike toward the children that she adopted.

She is claiming that these post are fake…which is an outright lie!  I would never post anything that was not the truth, nor would I fake posts!

I will be posting Lisa Hills emails to me at a later date.

 

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 Before you read these posts…check out the safety assessment that is filled out when the DSS of my state investigates the family

Pay special attention to section A  1 and 2…according to our own guidelines the cruel manner in which Ms. Hill speaks of her children is continued abuse….

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Nut job

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm

Yep. I am a bad mother. I regret ever adopting my older two kids. They are soooo hard to raise and they came withsooooo many problems. They are emotionally unstable, they lie, steal, manipulate, everything ALL DAY EVERYDAY and parenting them brings me no joy what-so-ever. I always caution people against adopting older kids from foster care unless they are older and finished with child rearing and can focus on a loveless relationship and have the time and energy to run their house like a prison. We were lied to about our kids and not given their files until AFTER their adoption was final. I was so stupid because I thought a loving home and stability would “help” these kids. WRONG. We have had them for 4 years (got them at ages 5 and 6) and they only get better at lying. We just found out today that our now 10 year old has been stealing from us. She is the one everything thinks is so sweet and innocent but they don’t know her. So today Andi stole $20 from us to buy a little thumb sized stuffed animal from a girl at school. Nice. We live penny to penny and yet she feels it’s ok to do this. I noticed money missing and I was yelling at my husband all day telling him that he must have taken it because I didn’t and we weren’t going to have enough money to get by until Friday when he gets paid. Then, the kids came home from school and Miguel told me Andi found a $20 bill in the middle of a bush on the way to school this morning. After interrogation, he admitted what she did and also gave her up about stealing things from the kids at school then SELLING THEM to other people. Great. I am the mother of a 10 year old slanger in the 5 th grade. Oh so proud. NOTHING we do gets to them. No punishments, no rewards, NOTHING drives them to be better people. That’s part of RAD. (Reactive Attachment Disorder) No conscience. I feel like shit because I imagine all the time that something happens that will send them back to their birth mom and how great life would be. From sun up to sun down I have to deal with all their crap. Calls from the school about theft, lying, trying to hurt our animals, last night I became overwhelmed and binged. I felt like such a failure because I turned to the only way to cope I know how. I wanted the world to stop for a moment and when I binge it does. For me, it is not our fault they are this way. We did not abuse or neglect them. Their birth mom did and some of their foster parents but we are left cleaning up the crap forever. Where is the joy? I try soooo hard to give them a normal life but it’s like they don’t want to accept that. All the RAD specialists say there is nothing we can do but try to “condition” them to do the right thing by habit but not because they know it’s the right thing. Since they were neglected so bad during their formative years before 3, their brains didn’t form naturally in that way and they are incapable of ever bonding or feeling empathy. I guess the criminal part of their brains developed just fine because they are great at all that. You would NEVER know it if you met them. they are MASTERS at putting on a fake front. EVERYONE is always telling me how good they are at church and school until stiff comes up missing… Give them a while and they will start to show their true colors. I feel soooo guilty thinking the things I do because I know it is not their fault for what happened to them to make them this way, but I resent being lied to by the state of California and now I am “stuck” with this situation. Everyday this is my existence. I am extra grateful for my other two kids because at least I get the good with the bad. I get to know what it’s like to have a child of mine love me and feel empathy for others. Yes, the kids are in therapy and s ee the therapist at school. I did get a notice from the school that the problems they have are far beyond what they deal with. Duh. Sometimes I find myself looking forward to when they are 12 and we can put them in a boot camp or group home. I look forward to peace. I look forward to some normalcy. That is, if they make it to 12 without going to Juvenal hall from finally stealing from the wrong person or place. Then i feel guilty for thinking those things. Thanks for listening to my vent. I don’t talk about this much because it is so embarrassing, but it is my reality. No judgements please. Unless you have a kid with RAD, you would not understand.

 I have decided to remove her children’s picture, I have left it up here long enough to make the point of what she did by releasing it.  That was my point.   Not only did she speak so horribly of her children, she released their pictures so everyone would know exactly who she was talking about.  I think that in itself shows the lack of concern Ms. Hill has for her children’s safety and well-being.   

Pic of the day… they look so normal don’t they?

 

Crazy Dayz

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm

I LOVE my kids school. So this morning I marched Andi right down to her principals office to tell her that Andi has been stealing from school. Her principal let her have it and is going to decide if she should stay the class Treasurer. Her principal and the entire school knows what my older kids are like so they are very understanding. I won’t lie, it feels good to be validated. as we were leaving, she said to me she can’t imagine how hard it is for us at home with my kids. Just to hear someone say that makes me feel better. To all of you, thanks for the support yesterday. There were about one of you who chastised me for my OWN FEELINGS on my own site, but again I remind you, if you don’t like it don’t read it. This is my safe place. I had SOOO many e-mails from people who have either gone through this or know someone who has adopted older children from foster care and gone though the SAME THING and they appreciate my honesty. There is nothing I want more in the world than for my older kids to change, to have a chance at life, but I should have been told the truth and been allowed to make an adoption decision based on TRUTH.This one person kept saying we chose them not the other way around. Not exactly. I was their daycare provider and they had already had TWO failed adoptions. They were placed with us as a kin placement on an emergency basis because their pre -adoptive mother wanted them out of the house asap. It was a Friday night. Then they kept dragging their feet about placing them somewhere else. They lied to us about their past and assured us that once they had stability all would be well so we agreed that our home would be better than being raised in a group home which is where they were headed at 5 and 6 years old! Just like they didn’t ask for their life circumstance, I did not ask for this either. In that way we are in the same boat. At what point is it enough? when they burn down our house? Miguel has already used knives to cut holes in his mattress so he could hide all the things he steals in there. How long until that knife lands somewhere else? They are both master manipulators and I am not surprised that my 10 year old daughter had a criminal enterprise going on at school. I will NEVER apologize for my own feelings. I will never hold back here because I committed to myself to be real. I KNOW it’s out on the Internet. That is the point. Maybe someone else out there is dealing with this or thinking of adopting older children and it can help them. This is my life. My day to day and I will purge on here how I want to and whenever I damn well want to. :)

 

Crazy Lady!!!

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm Brendahas left a new comment on your post “Nut job”:I’m going to report you tomorrow to CPS. I’m just giving you fair warning so don’t be surprised when they come knocking at your door. I know this won’t get published and that’s okay. It’s to you personally. Thank God I have friends who found out the town you live in. This article has been copied and pasted so you can’t deny writing it. They deserve so much better than you.Then she wrote this…Brendahas left a new comment on your post “Nut job”: I’m crazy? Lady, you’re saying you hate your kids and I’m crazy? I have 5 children plus an adopted child and I love them all. You need to be reported. Do those kids a favor and get them the hell out of your house. You are off your rocker. I cannot believe the things you said about these poor children. They deserve to be with someone who can take up the time needed for them and apparently that’s not you. I seriously doubt that CPS will do a damn thing cos you’re a cash cow for them but it will make me feel better. I just hope those kids don’t see what you wrote. You’re a horrible mother and not much of a human being either. $20 is more important to you than them. Go buy yourself a pizza or ice cream, wolf it down and maybe you’ll feel a little bit better!This lady has been leaving me crazy comments ALL night. Here is her profile…http://www.blogger.com/profile/14453734054168347425As if you can call CPS because someone is frustrated with their emotionallydisturbed children. :) YEs! Call the police while you are at it! Oh no! How dare I provide a loving home, safety, a life, a family. Yes! Call CPS! Their case workers will LOVE this. (You know, this is funny… their case workers are FROM CPS! lol ) AND they know exactly how I feel and are trying to get family therapy approved through the state! YES crazy lady. While your at it, get some therapy for yourself. It is VERY sad to have to stalk an adoptive mother who through thick and thin IS raising two children that were adopted from foster care. YEs! Call CPS and tell them that I am a horrible person for living up to my commitments to them and giving them ALL I HAVE EVERYDAY OF MY LIFE. They will be mortified! For sure they will place them with a better woman than I. Maybe someone who beats them, who neglects them, who doesn’t hold them, care for them, take them to church, someone who will not be there team mom for all their sports, or someone who doesn’t take them to school early so they can be in choir or act as a campaign manager so they can get elected to their student councils. Yes. I am worthless and they are MUCH better off in foster care. You sound like a crazy dumb ass. Go stalk someone else. I’m sure CPS will bend over backwards for you after reading all YOUR blogs. hahaha!Geez. This blog world really brings out the crazies. I guess I should have guessed that would happen with such a hard topic, but I will never hide from my feelings and I will always share my hardships in hopes that what I go through might help someone else.

 

Now this wacko is joining in the fun!

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm She writes…

lilibithas left a new comment on your post “Nut job”: Oh boy are you in big trouble , tell us how much you get for the subsidy monthly ?? and did they come to you already drugged ?? are they coded ?? Got you number and your location , this has going out to the media too , also the gov and the Social workers union and many news orgs else , you are a monster why did you take these kids ?? lady if those children are not removed and put in a safe and nuturing home soon , there is going to be hell to pay , while its true that CPS lies you cannot cast blame you adopted them , have you ever heard of the Casey foundation ?? have you ever gotten off your fat ass and got help or did you just do a few hours at the CPS seminar …..we got you you are a disgrace to the familys that do love children and not eat up the money you get , This is gone viral and its too late to shut it down , criminal charges against you for fraud and SLOTH have been set in motion ……you stole those kids and you have the nerve to speak out against the bios , HMM thought CPS didnt tell you anything …..this has already been printed out and on its way , you had better not hurt those children , nancy grace is going to have a feild day with you to if something happens , make sure you stop eating for a while and make sure the kids are not hurt , the police have been alerted too . no copywrite laws broken here

Wow. Someone is off their meds. lol Here is her bio… http://www.blogger.com/profile/06513141679326716598Here is her e-mail… lizzianthus007@aol.com

Going private – who wants an invite?

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Posted Sep 24 2009 10:45pm

So those two ladies who are stalking me have gotten out of control. The lilbit one is a lady who lost custody of her daughter while she was in rehab so she is against ALL adoptive parents. She has been leaving VERY threatening e-mails saying she knows where my kids go to school etc so I am going to go private. I have her contact info from her blog and plan to call her local police if she sends me another e-mail, but if anything this experience has shown me what whackadoos there are out in the world and I need to be more careful about our safety. The Brenda one has been leaving comments ALL night and according to my feed which gives me her contact info she has been checking my site every 5 minutes since yesterday. All these women are women who have had children taken from CPS. The crazy Brenda says my kids were stolen from their bio mom. This lady sold my kids for drugs but Brenda believes in all her mind that they are better off with her. It looks as though there was a reason for all these women to lose their kids. I would shutter at the thought of them being able to provide a safe home when they are obviouslymentally unstable. My follower thing says I have almost 200 followers and blogger will only let you invite 100 so I will take the 1st 100 that comment here. (Not the crazies.) lol see you on the private side folks!

20 spots left for an invite! :)

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Posted Sep 24 2009 10:45pm

Please don’t forget that if you don’t have your e-mail on your profile, I can’t send you the invite without it so please e-mail me with it asap. See you there! :)P.s. The Crazy Brenda lady is involved with a group of people who have had their kids taken away that believe that ALL adopted kids should be with their bio parents no matter what the abuse. They are a bunch of crazy people who no doubt lost their kids for good reasons. I am sooo sorry they found their way here but you all should know so you can protect your blogs. Her info and the links to all her coo-coo blogs are in the posts below. These nuts have been sending AWFUL posts that I will not publish and now will no longer read. I shutter to think what would have happened to their kids if they still had them. I will close up shop so we are all protected. God help any children those people have. I now feel MUCH better knowing that my kids are with me instead of live wires like that.

Lisa Hill

Lisa Hill

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BioI am a 32 year old wife and a mother to four beautiful adopted children. I am struggling with a food/binge eating addiction and I am disclosing all of my struggles and victories on my site in order to receive and offer support.

Look at what this adoptive mother is saying about her adoptive children.   Do you honestly believe that a woman that can say these horrible things about these children is the right person to raise them?

My God with a mother like that, you don’t need enemies!!!

When people called her out about her comments on these children, this woman, Lisa Hill, began emailing, threatening, and harrassing them, while in the public face, claiming it was the other way around.  I know because I have been on the recieving end of her emails and am now suffering under constant and continuing harassment from her for reposting her blog posts.   

It is my belief that if you put public information on a PUBLIC FORUM then you best be prepared for the comments you recieve.  She posted these horrible things about children who from her own mouth have suffered enough. She gave no nevermind to how hurt they would be if they’d come across her derogratory comments about them or how others would treat them if they read the comments and recognized them from the pictures she posted.  Lisa Hill does not have these childrens best intrest at heart, just her own pity party, and it is my belief that CPS should immediately remove these children and place them in a home where they will recieve the love that they deserve…  not the tyrannical ravings of a woman who obviously does not know the true meaning of the word mother.   UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND FORGIVENESS NO MATTER WHAT!

 This woman posted this and then after recieving negative comments thought that she could change her blog to private, I guess she forgot about this other site where she had posted it as well… I am posting the entire thing here, so she can’t deny that she posted it.

I have reposted Lisa Hill’s blog posts under the guidelines of the Fair Use Doctrine, I believe I have made it perfectly clear that I have done so, not only because I find them News Worthy, but also for the purpose of criticism.  I completely and totally disagree with the manner that she speaks of her adoptive children and find her attitude toward them alarming.  Ms. Hill has continually emailed me threatening and harassing me in an attempt to bully me into removing these posts, I refuse to do so. 

This is a non-profit, blog, used to educate people about CPS, Foster Care, Adoption and the deaths or injuries of children that have been in contact or in the custody of Child Protective Services.  Lisa Hill adopted her two older children from Foster Care and I seriously question CPS allowing her to do so after reading what she has posted about them.  I believe that Ms. Hills attitude toward these children is harmful to them and it is that belief that has made me refuse to remove this post.  People need to see first hand how some of the people who adopt foster children really feel about them.  Lisa Hill’s posts brings this issue fully to light and I feel they are  a prime example of why we need better screening for people who adopt children from foster care and the need for continued montoring after children are adopted from foster care.

Lisa Hill has emailed me accusing me of endangering her children by reposting her posts, I do not believe that my repost is  endangering her children, Ms. Hill is the one who posted all of this information on a public forum, I have merely reposted the information that she released to the public.  These are not private facts, but information that she herself made public on several different public forums, she did not have a concern in the world that predators might be able to use the information that she posted to find her children, but now she wants to say that I am endangering her children. 

As a matter of fact, my blog posting carries only the information that she, herself,  posted on the wellness blog site.  On her other blog, where she also posted this, she has the state she lives in,  the town, the names and ages of the children, her husband’s name and occupation and even more pictures of these children and the other two.  That information can also still be accessed by anyone wishing to do so, I have choosen not to publish that information here.

My point is her issue with my reposting her offensive posts has nothing to do with endangering her children, but more to do with the fact that she has now realized how horrible what she wrote about these children really is and wishing to hide the proof of it.  Ms. Hill refuses to accept the responsiblity for her actions and has instead rage a campain against those who have stood up to her and cried foul for what I can only percieve as resentment, anger, and an intense dislike toward the children that she adopted.

She is claiming that these post are fake…which is an outright lie!  I would never post anything that was not the truth, nor would I fake posts!

I will be posting Lisa Hills emails to me at a later date.

 

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the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

the nature of the copyrighted work;

the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole;

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Nut job

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm

Yep. I am a bad mother. I regret ever adopting my older two kids. They are soooo hard to raise and they came withsooooo many problems. They are emotionally unstable, they lie, steal, manipulate, everything ALL DAY EVERYDAY and parenting them brings me no joy what-so-ever. I always caution people against adopting older kids from foster care unless they are older and finished with child rearing and can focus on a loveless relationship and have the time and energy to run their house like a prison. We were lied to about our kids and not given their files until AFTER their adoption was final. I was so stupid because I thought a loving home and stability would “help” these kids. WRONG. We have had them for 4 years (got them at ages 5 and 6) and they only get better at lying. We just found out today that our now 10 year old has been stealing from us. She is the one everything thinks is so sweet and innocent but they don’t know her. So today Andi stole $20 from us to buy a little thumb sized stuffed animal from a girl at school. Nice. We live penny to penny and yet she feels it’s ok to do this. I noticed money missing and I was yelling at my husband all day telling him that he must have taken it because I didn’t and we weren’t going to have enough money to get by until Friday when he gets paid. Then, the kids came home from school and Miguel told me Andi found a $20 bill in the middle of a bush on the way to school this morning. After interrogation, he admitted what she did and also gave her up about stealing things from the kids at school then SELLING THEM to other people. Great. I am the mother of a 10 year old slanger in the 5 th grade. Oh so proud. NOTHING we do gets to them. No punishments, no rewards, NOTHING drives them to be better people. That’s part of RAD. (Reactive Attachment Disorder) No conscience. I feel like shit because I imagine all the time that something happens that will send them back to their birth mom and how great life would be. From sun up to sun down I have to deal with all their crap. Calls from the school about theft, lying, trying to hurt our animals, last night I became overwhelmed and binged. I felt like such a failure because I turned to the only way to cope I know how. I wanted the world to stop for a moment and when I binge it does. For me, it is not our fault they are this way. We did not abuse or neglect them. Their birth mom did and some of their foster parents but we are left cleaning up the crap forever. Where is the joy? I try soooo hard to give them a normal life but it’s like they don’t want to accept that. All the RAD specialists say there is nothing we can do but try to “condition” them to do the right thing by habit but not because they know it’s the right thing. Since they were neglected so bad during their formative years before 3, their brains didn’t form naturally in that way and they are incapable of ever bonding or feeling empathy. I guess the criminal part of their brains developed just fine because they are great at all that. You would NEVER know it if you met them. they are MASTERS at putting on a fake front. EVERYONE is always telling me how good they are at church and school until stiff comes up missing… Give them a while and they will start to show their true colors. I feel soooo guilty thinking the things I do because I know it is not their fault for what happened to them to make them this way, but I resent being lied to by the state of California and now I am “stuck” with this situation. Everyday this is my existence. I am extra grateful for my other two kids because at least I get the good with the bad. I get to know what it’s like to have a child of mine love me and feel empathy for others. Yes, the kids are in therapy and s ee the therapist at school. I did get a notice from the school that the problems they have are far beyond what they deal with. Duh. Sometimes I find myself looking forward to when they are 12 and we can put them in a boot camp or group home. I look forward to peace. I look forward to some normalcy. That is, if they make it to 12 without going to Juvenal hall from finally stealing from the wrong person or place. Then i feel guilty for thinking those things. Thanks for listening to my vent. I don’t talk about this much because it is so embarrassing, but it is my reality. No judgements please. Unless you have a kid with RAD, you would not understand.

I have decided to remove her children’s picture, I have left it up here long enough to make the point of what she did by releasing it.  That was my point.   Not only did she speak so horribly of her children, she released their pictures so everyone would know exactly who she was talking about.  I think that in itself shows the lack of concern Ms. Hill has for her children’s safety and well-being.  

 

Pic of the day… they look so normal don’t they?

 

Crazy Dayz

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm

I LOVE my kids school. So this morning I marched Andi right down to her principals office to tell her that Andi has been stealing from school. Her principal let her have it and is going to decide if she should stay the class Treasurer. Her principal and the entire school knows what my older kids are like so they are very understanding. I won’t lie, it feels good to be validated. as we were leaving, she said to me she can’t imagine how hard it is for us at home with my kids. Just to hear someone say that makes me feel better. To all of you, thanks for the support yesterday. There were about one of you who chastised me for my OWN FEELINGS on my own site, but again I remind you, if you don’t like it don’t read it. This is my safe place. I had SOOO many e-mails from people who have either gone through this or know someone who has adopted older children from foster care and gone though the SAME THING and they appreciate my honesty. There is nothing I want more in the world than for my older kids to change, to have a chance at life, but I should have been told the truth and been allowed to make an adoption decision based on TRUTH.This one person kept saying we chose them not the other way around. Not exactly. I was their daycare provider and they had already had TWO failed adoptions. They were placed with us as a kin placement on an emergency basis because their pre -adoptive mother wanted them out of the house asap. It was a Friday night. Then they kept dragging their feet about placing them somewhere else. They lied to us about their past and assured us that once they had stability all would be well so we agreed that our home would be better than being raised in a group home which is where they were headed at 5 and 6 years old! Just like they didn’t ask for their life circumstance, I did not ask for this either. In that way we are in the same boat. At what point is it enough? when they burn down our house? Miguel has already used knives to cut holes in his mattress so he could hide all the things he steals in there. How long until that knife lands somewhere else? They are both master manipulators and I am not surprised that my 10 year old daughter had a criminal enterprise going on at school. I will NEVER apologize for my own feelings. I will never hold back here because I committed to myself to be real. I KNOW it’s out on the Internet. That is the point. Maybe someone else out there is dealing with this or thinking of adopting older children and it can help them. This is my life. My day to day and I will purge on here how I want to and whenever I damn well want to. :)

 

Crazy Lady!!!

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm Brendahas left a new comment on your post “Nut job”:I’m going to report you tomorrow to CPS. I’m just giving you fair warning so don’t be surprised when they come knocking at your door. I know this won’t get published and that’s okay. It’s to you personally. Thank God I have friends who found out the town you live in. This article has been copied and pasted so you can’t deny writing it. They deserve so much better than you.Then she wrote this…Brendahas left a new comment on your post “Nut job”: I’m crazy? Lady, you’re saying you hate your kids and I’m crazy? I have 5 children plus an adopted child and I love them all. You need to be reported. Do those kids a favor and get them the hell out of your house. You are off your rocker. I cannot believe the things you said about these poor children. They deserve to be with someone who can take up the time needed for them and apparently that’s not you. I seriously doubt that CPS will do a damn thing cos you’re a cash cow for them but it will make me feel better. I just hope those kids don’t see what you wrote. You’re a horrible mother and not much of a human being either. $20 is more important to you than them. Go buy yourself a pizza or ice cream, wolf it down and maybe you’ll feel a little bit better!This lady has been leaving me crazy comments ALL night. Here is her profile…http://www.blogger.com/profile/14453734054168347425As if you can call CPS because someone is frustrated with their emotionallydisturbed children. :) YEs! Call the police while you are at it! Oh no! How dare I provide a loving home, safety, a life, a family. Yes! Call CPS! Their case workers will LOVE this. (You know, this is funny… their case workers are FROM CPS! lol ) AND they know exactly how I feel and are trying to get family therapy approved through the state! YES crazy lady. While your at it, get some therapy for yourself. It is VERY sad to have to stalk an adoptive mother who through thick and thin IS raising two children that were adopted from foster care. YEs! Call CPS and tell them that I am a horrible person for living up to my commitments to them and giving them ALL I HAVE EVERYDAY OF MY LIFE. They will be mortified! For sure they will place them with a better woman than I. Maybe someone who beats them, who neglects them, who doesn’t hold them, care for them, take them to church, someone who will not be there team mom for all their sports, or someone who doesn’t take them to school early so they can be in choir or act as a campaign manager so they can get elected to their student councils. Yes. I am worthless and they are MUCH better off in foster care. You sound like a crazy dumb ass. Go stalk someone else. I’m sure CPS will bend over backwards for you after reading all YOUR blogs. hahaha!Geez. This blog world really brings out the crazies. I guess I should have guessed that would happen with such a hard topic, but I will never hide from my feelings and I will always share my hardships in hopes that what I go through might help someone else.

 

Now this wacko is joining in the fun!

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Posted Sep 23 2009 11:11pm She writes…

lilibithas left a new comment on your post “Nut job”: Oh boy are you in big trouble , tell us how much you get for the subsidy monthly ?? and did they come to you already drugged ?? are they coded ?? Got you number and your location , this has going out to the media too , also the gov and the Social workers union and many news orgs else , you are a monster why did you take these kids ?? lady if those children are not removed and put in a safe and nuturing home soon , there is going to be hell to pay , while its true that CPS lies you cannot cast blame you adopted them , have you ever heard of the Casey foundation ?? have you ever gotten off your fat ass and got help or did you just do a few hours at the CPS seminar …..we got you you are a disgrace to the familys that do love children and not eat up the money you get , This is gone viral and its too late to shut it down , criminal charges against you for fraud and SLOTH have been set in motion ……you stole those kids and you have the nerve to speak out against the bios , HMM thought CPS didnt tell you anything …..this has already been printed out and on its way , you had better not hurt those children , nancy grace is going to have a feild day with you to if something happens , make sure you stop eating for a while and make sure the kids are not hurt , the police have been alerted too . no copywrite laws broken here

Wow. Someone is off their meds. lol Here is her bio… http://www.blogger.com/profile/06513141679326716598Here is her e-mail… lizzianthus007@aol.com

Going private – who wants an invite?

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Posted Sep 24 2009 10:45pm

So those two ladies who are stalking me have gotten out of control. The lilbit one is a lady who lost custody of her daughter while she was in rehab so she is against ALL adoptive parents. She has been leaving VERY threatening e-mails saying she knows where my kids go to school etc so I am going to go private. I have her contact info from her blog and plan to call her local police if she sends me another e-mail, but if anything this experience has shown me what whackadoos there are out in the world and I need to be more careful about our safety. The Brenda one has been leaving comments ALL night and according to my feed which gives me her contact info she has been checking my site every 5 minutes since yesterday. All these women are women who have had children taken from CPS. The crazy Brenda says my kids were stolen from their bio mom. This lady sold my kids for drugs but Brenda believes in all her mind that they are better off with her. It looks as though there was a reason for all these women to lose their kids. I would shutter at the thought of them being able to provide a safe home when they are obviouslymentally unstable. My follower thing says I have almost 200 followers and blogger will only let you invite 100 so I will take the 1st 100 that comment here. (Not the crazies.) lol see you on the private side folks!

20 spots left for an invite! :)

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Posted Sep 24 2009 10:45pm

Please don’t forget that if you don’t have your e-mail on your profile, I can’t send you the invite without it so please e-mail me with it asap. See you there! :)P.s. The Crazy Brenda lady is involved with a group of people who have had their kids taken away that believe that ALL adopted kids should be with their bio parents no matter what the abuse. They are a bunch of crazy people who no doubt lost their kids for good reasons. I am sooo sorry they found their way here but you all should know so you can protect your blogs. Her info and the links to all her coo-coo blogs are in the posts below. These nuts have been sending AWFUL posts that I will not publish and now will no longer read. I shutter to think what would have happened to their kids if they still had them. I will close up shop so we are all protected. God help any children those people have. I now feel MUCH better knowing that my kids are with me instead of live wires like that.

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BioI am a 32 year old wife and a mother to four beautiful adopted children. I am struggling with a food/binge eating addiction and I am disclosing all of my struggles and victories on my site in order to receive and offer support.

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